Everybody you meet you know youre around powerful people but nothing ever seems to happen. A man wears a costume depicting former U.S. President Donald Trump on July 3, 2021 in Sarasota, Florida. Then Reagan and Bush. I believe in a pluralistic America, and you know what? And the way I expressed it is that the Bible calls the church the body of Christ, and whats happened in the last 100 years is that the hands and the feet have been amputated and the church has just been a mouth, and primarily its been known for what its against. And there are three of us that run over 20,000. Number one, how does Peter Drucker fit in? MR. BROOKS: Yeah, but (chuckles) just because you vote against somebody, theyre not equal citizens? You could see the politician in his head. And so when I say Im not a policymaker, that doesnt mean that Im opposed to Christians being in the public square just like everybody else ought to be in the public square and have their say at the table in public policy discussions. And people wanted to break out of it and express their faith and their lives in new ways, and there was a sense of frustration with that. And he said, Weve got to do something. So he goes over and he rents the cricket coliseum, which in 122 years has never been used for anything except cricket, and they said, Youll never fill it 60,000 seats, youll never fill it. And within one day they were sold out and had a day of prayer. Whats your take on his book? And I decided, why dont we be a church for people who hate church? Now Christianity obviously had a different evolution; they had a little thing to deal with called the Roman Empire, and then they tried to, you know, play catch-up on the Byzantine state and the Holy Roman Empire until the wars of religion taught them that separation of church and state or at least greater tolerance had some virtues. MR. WARREN: Oh, no, no. One of them was the success of the movie The Passion, which was roundly panned by everybody and then went on to become the third biggest best-selling movie in history grossing $600 million. He gave a check to his church that compensated the church for the 25 years of income it had paid him in the first 25 years of his service. What is amazing to me is that the diseases that are killing and still affecting billions of people we found the cures for in the 19th and 20th century and now its the 21st century. Its like starting with Carter you know there was a headline Who are the Evangelicals? And about every five years, we get a new article Who are the Evangelicals? Well, its not like theyre a fringe group; theyre 28 percent of the country. Im sorry to tell you that, but its just not. A few months ago, I signed a Purpose Driven Life for Fidel Castro, who asked for one. And we dont have to agree on it, but at least were talking about it. And thats not atypical for Americans. Ranking fifth with 59 megachurches, Tennessee has the most megachurches per capita of any state, with one megachurch for every 99,254 residents. Are you asking me then just to deny my convictions? If Andrew Gillum were governor and former president Trump had gone back to the Big Apple, would all of these people be upending their lives and moving to Florida? I was president every year in high school and senior class student body president and I actually intended to go into government and when I was a sophomore in high school I got appointed to the Senate as a page. World Changers Church International (College Park, Georgia) World Changers Church via Facebook World Changers Church has about 15,000 weekly visitors. And the very next week either Time or Newsweek came, and the first question they asked was, Whats your salary? And I thought, isnt that typical; they always think youre in it for the money. MR. WARREN: On the politics, let me say this I think government is a noble profession; its just not my calling. This all seems less like the Okies migrating to California than people leaving Indiana for Guyana. It was urban values versus the rest of America. Florida Is Now a MAGA Megachurch With Donald Trump as the Almighty and Ron DeSantis as the prosperity-gospel pastor. There was praise and worship through Dance, Mime, Song and Spoken Word! The first Reformation was about creeds; I think this one will be about deeds. Mark Rodgers, who is up on the Hill, is someone who is acutely aware of that, and spends a lot of time trying to go downstream to influence the culture. Were talking about the kingdom of God and the kingdom of man. But the point is this. He didnt pull out a sermon on adultery; he publicly defended her in front of the Pharisees, and he said, Let him who is without sin cast the first stone., When they went away, he then turned to her, and in the privacy of a one-on-one conversation, said, Where are your offenders? And she said, Theyve gone away, Lord. And he said, Well, neither do I condemn thee. They were all sociological. Its not narcissism, its never about us. (Laughter.) . And I would challenge you pardon me for using a religious term to speak in a prophetic voice. These are some religious organizations with a large number of reviews in Fort Lauderdale, FL: Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale (49 reviews), "Calvary chapel is unlike any church I have been to before: this in my option would be considered a mega church. Im not sure it ever left its religious roots, but thats a different question. The next phase that youre going to see is were actually doing citywide 40 Days of Purposes. Naturally, the Kushners followed Daddy Trump to Florida, less because of investigation than because the NYC social scene had somewhat soured on them, what with the tiki torches and white nationalists and the brown children taken from their parents and kept in cages. What does a pastor do? Here it is: Love God with all your heart and soul and mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. So Jesus is saying, When it gets down to the bottom line, it all boils down to two things: Do you love God with all your heart and soul, mind and strength? The Dunkin ice cream chain is dishing a new flavor of the month (" OREO * MEGA STUF Cone and Cappuccino Blast") for National Ice Cream Month, and it will mark the big day on Sunday by . And he said you know, it was a group of forty or fifty he said, I know what you guys are feeling. MS. KAMINER: Thats not the question. Calvary Chapel. I only come here when it is urgent. How do you answer that question? I believe Im going to hell if I dont do what God tells me to do. The sanctuary has roughly 4K seats plus there are other options to watch the service as well. MR. WARREN: Well, the church outgrew me a long time ago. In 2004, there were three big surprises in our culture. And I actually, we pulled into town right in the middle of rush-hour traffic. We actually have 22 different services in our church appealing to all different kinds of ages, styles of music. Theyre all my good friends, but they do tend to be black because you only build a church on the people who are wherever you are. So I dont begrudge anyone for wanting to move to Florida or Texas or Oregon or wherever. Evangelicals say, They dont speak for me. And so, I dont come from this community, but I speak for it. I got up and said, Lets open a Bible. But nobody had a Bible. And I was working 18 hours a day and loving every moment of it, and I was burning out physically and emotionally. Im here to start a church. So, David, thank you for responding. I lose because I dont get my way all the time. Microsites provide worship and a message, as well as childrens ministry activities, but they also provide a time for vision casting and engagement with Reverb Church leaders and volunteers in a smaller, more intimate setting. David Brooks, Columnist, The New York Times, Moderator: About Pew Research Center Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. One day a guy comes to Jesus, and he says, Okay, Jesus, summarize the whole Bible for me. And Jesus says, Im going to give you the whole Bible in a few sentences. Renovation of Reverb Church's World Golf Village project is being overseen by Bent Construction which is based in Jacksonville. Now, what happens is, when I force you to say you must feel as passionate as I do about this particular issue, whether youre a believer or not, then thats going to create political conflict. What are people saying about religious organizations in Miami, FL? DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (ABP) For the third time since 2006, First Baptist Church in Daytona Beach, Fla., is without a pastor. And I guess the reason I didnt mention the race thing is because we look at it in terms of a justice issue, not a racial issue. We need some rocks in our lives that dont change when everything around us is changing. Church by the Glades. The first Reformation actually split Christianity into dozens and then hundreds of different segments. I want you to bless me; I want you to give me more power. It sounds like a very egotistical prayer. And so I think theres just been a sort of exhaustion with that. MR. WARREN: Yes, they are. Now that is just such a superficial, unrealistic view of what actually goes on. Theres another book, The Scandal of the Evangelical Conscience. Another myth is that mega-churches require little or no commitment. Because were all passionate about different things. As I said this morning, just disaggregate the demographics on the evangelical community, and you find intergenerational differences in opinions. And I would just say to that the reality is that most members of typical churches could not join Saddleback because they would not be willing to meet the requirements. The intellectual gift is the gift to be able to pick out out of the draws of the media world the crystalline pebble that is truly important. JILL LAWRENCE, USA TODAY: Okay, try to imagine for a minute being one of these minorities Jewish or Black or Hispanic or somebody who lives in a city who isnt part of the majority in the last two presidential elections looking at someone like you who has a church of 20 to 25 thousand people, who has sold 25 million books, who has trained tens of thousands of pastors in the United States, whose sermons are read every weekend all across the United States and then knowing that you said 85 percent of your church voted for George Bush? Because I had been raised in a Christian home, I rejected it all, and I decided to study the religions of the world. DAN HARRIS, ABC NEWS: Let me actually try to take a crack at what Frank was getting at. You say, why do you do that? And when youre living at par, your DVD collection is well organized, your cell phone rate plan is well tailored to your needs, your fingernail polish matches the interior of your Lexus, youve got your life so calm and together that next to you, Dick Cheney looks bipolar. ANNE KORNBLUT, THE NEW YORK TIMES: People keep going down the issues with you and youve done abortion and gay marriage. And out of that came a conviction. The question or the problem is this contradiction. No matter your stage in life, we have a place for you to thrive. (Chuckles.) In fact, notice in my definition of evangelicals I didnt say anything about political views I mentioned what evangelicals believe about Jesus and the Bible, but I could show you evangelicals who believe the exact opposite thing politically in my own church. Other conference speakers were John DiIulio (University of Pennsylvania), who spoke on faith-based initiatives, and Reuel Marc Gerecht (American Enterprise Institute), who spoke on Islam and democracy. And one night, I stood up at church and said, Guys, I cant do this anymore. Im not against that at all. Give a guy a little bit of power and it goes to his head and he becomes a dictator. Im betting my life that he was right. And after it was over I said, Take me out to a village. So we went out to the township of Tembisa. Both of them. Will America return to its religious roots and faith or will it go the way of Europe and basically reject its heritage? Im very firm on that. That is anarchy waiting to happen. MR. WILLIAMS: Its interesting that you dont mention race in your global plan. First, it brought in a ton of money. MR. DIONNE: How do you avoid politics? A fundamentalist basically would look at many others in Christianity and say, Youre not even a Christian. Theyd say it about Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Catholics. How can I help you? So theyd say, I think churches exist for the community; not vice versa, and Id write that down. Heres the question, though, and I think this is really important. MS. HAGGERTY: And your denomination when you grew up? What are some highly rated religious organizations in Miami, FL? But times change and CPAC, which had been hosting its annual conference in Washington for half a century, moved its 2021 confab to Florida as an act of defiance against big-government socialists now in power in the nations capital. When the first church started, I literally did it all. I need to see what its like its kind of like for me to understand God without some kind of human form would be like an ant trying to understand the Internet. And Im coming from outside that community Im Jewish, and so Im sort of looking at it from the outside. And that shows the difference in politics, but Carter, then Reagan-Reagan, Clinton-Clinton, Bush-Bush, all eight elections, a guy who claimed to be born again won the election. You say that culture comes before law; I would say culture and law work in tandem, and I would also say that religion and culture work in tandem. Top 10 Best mega church Near Fort Lauderdale, Florida, All "mega church" results in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. I am an American; I believe in pluralism, and I dont think we need a God party. MR. WARREN: Let me ask, do you believe a person can be Jewish and be a follower of Christ? And you know, one could feel left out of this purpose-driven life theologically. But if you look at the Colonial period, theres not a lot of religion, really, and thats why there is a First Great Awakening, and why its news. One, a new leadership cohort, much more influenced by Chuck Colson than anybody else, and much less by Pat Robertson. We had dinner with a gay couple because we are heavily involved in helping people infected and afflicted by AIDS and weve given millions to it. But hes not typical. Its the question about theocracy. Compassionate activism and I am not talking about politics; I am talking about the fact that about a hundred years ago, Christianity split into two wings in the Protestant division and this hasnt been happening with Catholicism, but it did happen in Protestantism. And number three, which is a really big one and of particular interest to me, what is going to replace the vacuum in China now that Marxism is dead? MR. CROMARTIE: One of the topics that did not come up during our advisors meeting is the problem of suffering and evil in the world, and that certainly would take at least a whole afternoon session. The historic First Baptist Church was founded 1838; an institution in Jacksonville, it grew to become largest church in the Southern Baptist Convention in the early 2000s, with a reported . Thats why, for him, First Things, the Catholic magazine, is far more influential than any sort of evangelical publication, and thats why he genuflects in the direction of somebody like John DiIulio. And we did we collected over 2 million pounds of food and those 9,200 lay ministers pulled it off and we fed 40,000 people three meals a day. Though there are probably synergies here. The theocracy panel will be meeting on the deck. There are more baptisms in West Africa thousands more baptisms than in much of the unfunded pension liability known as Europe. The largest church in the world is in Seoul, Korea Central Church on Yoido Island, which has a half a million members. And thats why I emphasize what Im passionate about. The second change, I think, is a certain embarrassment I sense with the putative leaders of the evangelical movement. How do you explain a book by a pastor selling now over 25 million copies? I believe to go to hell you have to do the impossible: you have to reject the love of God. And each year we would raise it a percentage, because every time you give, you break the grip of materialism in your life. One example would be, I think that the AIDS issue itself needs to be pushed harder. So I began to ask myself, what are the biggest problems on the planet? Of course, at the University of Chicago an orgasm is a theoretical construct. There are accidental parents but there are no accidental children. An evangelist is somebody who travels around from town to town to town speaking. So Im speaking for Jews. And the third was some of the so-called values voters from this past election. Well, now I can say yes, I have. And there are a lot of things that are not fair in this world. What advice would you give to me as the pastor of a new church? resigned from the Missouri house to move to Florida to become a consultant.. It says Im supposed to equip you to do your ministry. And so I said, Ill make you a deal. I may not agree with your world view at all, but you are worthy of value. Thats tolerance. Faith trumps everything. JUAN WILLIAMS, NPR: Picking up on this business about the disagreements between the fundamentalists and the Pentecostals, I mean, this struck me as news because when journalists write about it, we go to people like Robertson and Falwell to represent the evangelicals. How did I miss that? Im so tired of this story; Ive heard it over and over and over the latest being the most recent issue of Business Week, where it basically says the mega-churches are big business. I think that throwing money after it in the government fashion has proven ineffective. Laugh the night away at the Singles Comedy Night, featuring a lineup of comedians from SAK Comedy Lab. And you need to understand, I am a country boy. The Bible says the worst sin is pride. But I do believe what David Brooks wrote in an article right after the election, what he called the two conversations going on in America. I am an evangelical. Some of the nation's leading journalists gathered in Key West, Florida, in May 2005 for the Pew Forum's biannual Faith Angle conference on religion, politics and public life. So I didnt buy a bigger house, I dont own a second house, I dont own a yacht, I still drive a four-year-old Ford. America, in the last half of this century, elects born-again presidents. Thats what happened when they split. The other is called Acts of Mercy, which we use to help those infected with AIDS. 8 facts about Catholics and politics in the U.S. About a third in U.S. see Gods hand in presidential elections, but fewer say God picks winners based on policies, Republican Gains in 2022 Midterms Driven Mostly by Turnout Advantage, Private, selective colleges are most likely to use race, ethnicity as a factor in admissions decisions, 5 facts about the QAnon conspiracy theories, Large Shares See Russia and Putin in Negative Light, While Views of Zelenskyy More Mixed. Its that kind of stability that builds really strong churches. And so I began to think about this, and two years ago I was in Johannesburg, South Africa, where I was teaching this Purpose-Driven church seminar, and we simulcast it to 400 sites across the continent, and I trained in that time just about 90,000 pastors, in that one week. And thats really not about fertility; thats about church attendance. It was the most amazing thing. No, Im just curious whether you have . There arent any homeless people lying on the streets where I live. But, you know, to pull out the beam from our own eye. I wasnt even there the week the tsunami happened, but heres how that network works. Lakewood Church Location: Houston, Texas What are some religious organizations with a large number of reviews in Miami, FL? I have an email newsletter called Ricks Toolbox that goes out every Monday to almost 147,000 pastors. I read all of your stuff all of the time and I just wanted to start off by saying thank you. Even as Floridas COVID cases skyrocketed and Ron DeSantiss surgeon general tried to unwind the psychology of testing for COVID, people from MAGA world have upended their lives and moved to Florida to own the libs. Thats the truth. MR. WARREN: Well, heres what I think. Head to Florida. So what exactly is your take on the 2004 election? He said, The purpose of management is not to make the church more business-like, but to make it more church-like. And I thought, thats what I want because I dont think churches should be a business. And Ive watched the church grow from just my wife and me over the past 25 years. I had it early. I wanted that on there. I think its a noble profession. You must teach them not only how to make a fish; you need to teach them how to sell a fish teach them free enterprise. We said, Were the church that, if you can figure out where we are, you get to come, because we only want really smart people. So we kept changing it.
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